Earlier tonight there was a live twitter chat coordinated by the FODMAP guru, Patsy Catsos.
I have recapped some of the discussion below, highlighting the points that I was most interested to discover. Hopefully there will be many more of these chats to come because I found it so helpful. Plus it was cool knowing there are others out there with the same (unrelieved) GI troubles, experimenting with a low FODMAPs diet as a means of reducing symptoms to improve their life.
Enjoy!
Q1: Tips to add flavor not fodmaps.
Garlic infused olive oil – This was rec’d by Patsy and I had actually already read it on her site last week, but I have yet to try it myself. I typically tolerate garlic powder okay, but I still use it sparingly if at all. I never would have guessed that garlic infused oil could be less offensive to the gut, but apparently it is. Here’s a link to her method. Note: infused oil needs to be refrigerated and will go rancid after ~ 1 month (cloudy oil doesn’t mean it’s bad though – this happens when oil is chilled and it will get clear again once it returns to room temp)
Flavored olive oils– Lemon & orange for sweeter options, rosemary & basil for herby dishes.
Tamari– This is my personal favorite way of seasoning food, but obviously it is semi-restrictive in that you have to be making an Asian-esque meal.
Mustards & Vinegars– These are about as pure as it gets. Apple cider vinegar, rice wine vinegar, and ground mustard are definitely favorites of mine. To make a dressing out of these you can just add a little oil and FODMAPs free sweetener (like stevia, maple syrup, or cane sugar). Specialty mustards were also brought up, which I have yet to try, but they sounded delicious. Others also offered up DIY mustard recipes.
Chives & the green section of spring onions– I’ve yet to test these as I’m not a huge fan of them to begin with.
Q2: How can vegans do a low FODMAP diet?
Since this is my wheelhouse, I feel like I was all over this topic. The main issue is getting adequate proteinsince beans are the biggest source of this macronutrient and they are a member of the FODMAPs group galactans.
I personally rely on whole grains/pseudoseeds like quinoa and amaranth. They are complete proteins full of essential amino acids. There are other wheat grains with protein too, but I have been sticking to mostly gluten free grains like millet, oat, rice, corn, buckwheat, etc.
The general consensus on soy was that in it’s purest form it is well tolerated. I have found I have no issues with tofu or tempeh (thank goodness), but I eat them separate from other FODMAPs if I can. Yes, they are beans, but they are not as offensive for my gut as say, TVP or soy protein isolate. There’s still some controversy over soy milk, soy sauce, and soy beans.
Nuts and seedsare also key foods that are both FODMAPs free and good sources of protein. Almonds, cashews, and sunflower seeds are my favorites. Someone mentioned pistachios being a GI stressor, but I’ve never experiences this. Opinions welcome on this.
Q3: Tips to get adequate fiber.
The group agreed that non-wheat whole grains and the safe fruits and veggies were the best ways to get fiber. Flaxwas another suggestion.
Grains like brown rice and oatswere mentioned (as well as adding oat bran to foods). Spelt was also brought up, but I thought that had wheat, so I’m unsure about that one.
Noted fruits included citrus, ripe bananas, and berries.
No specific veggies were mentioned, but Patsy did bring up winter squash, a personal favorite of mine. She said that pumpkin was a source of mannitol (a fructan) and to be careful with it. I didn’t know this, so that was really interesting to me. I eat winter squash and sweet potatoesin smaller amounts now, but I have had no problems with other veggies like carrots, corn, peas, and leafy greens in large quantities. I’d be interested to hear how others do with various vegetables. Thus far I avoid artichokes, zucchini, garlic and onions.
Q4: Good sources of recipes, cookbooks?
There weren’t many mentioned here, and the one cookbook that was offered up wasn’t vegetarian so I didn’t really check it out. This site apparently has an area in the browser for you to select ingredients to exclude in your recipe search, which may be really helpful (unless you cross out too many things and don’t get any results!). Hopefully my own sitewill be a good resource for those looking to eat a plant based low FODMAP diet.
Q5: How can you use glucose to better absorb fructose?
This was a topic that I’ve been curious about because I don’t really understand it. Our bodies aren’t able to break down fructose-fructose bonds, so how would adding glucose help? Nobody seemed to think it was a wise method, so I don’t plan on looking into it much further for the time being.
Q6: Why are there so many conflicting fodmap food lists?
WHY INDEED! For one, differing food lists have been generated by old, out-of-date food data. As per Patsy, there’s also lots of room for conflict in food prep. Plus, different fruits and vegetables have different amounts of FODMAPs. Still, the main cause for conflicting information is due to the new research being published (by our AU friends!). Thank goodness someone’s on top of it. Well done Aussies
As we trial and error more and more info becomes outdated. I also found out it costs $5000 (AUD) and takes 3 weeks to test 1 food for the full set of FODMAPs. Wow.
I also found out they update the Monash Uni booklet annually to keep everyone up to date. The Monash booklet is for sale hereand all proceeds go to further research.
Q7: How do you work out which FODMAPs are a problem for you?
Challenging with one type of FODMAP at a time is really the only way to know.
I also asked my own question about how people tolerated dried fruit, dates, and raisins. Aside from the issue of mold (mentioned by one person), people seemed to handle small amounts of raisins, dried cranberries, and dried berries fine. I’ve found the same, so I’m glad. I was more curious about the issue of dates as I’ve been wanting to use them in bar recipes (or as a sweetener in raw sauces/pates), but I still can’t figure out the amount that works for me.
Hope anyone who is interested in this stuff joins for the next twitter session! If you can’t feel free to post questions below that I can ask for you.
Thank you for sharing this! Patsy is great — I have found her site very helpful. I too tolerate tofu very well. Raisins too. Zucchini is allowed on the newest list (I have a copy of the newest booklet). And garlic infused oil is amazing. I buy it at the grocery store. I can’t tolerate garlic cloves or garlic powder at all, but the oil is totally fine. Check out Kate Scarlata’s blog — her list is based on the new booklet too. Zucchini has been a lifesaver for me. I just reintroduced small amounts of wheat with no problem, so I’m excited!!! If you want me to look up anything for you in the latest Fodmap booklet, let me know
Posted by Wendy | January 19, 2012, 8:14 pmHey Wendy! Thanks so much for sharing all your info! You’re referring to the latest Monash booklet, correct? How often do they come out with a new one and when did the latest copy get published? I’m hesitant only because of how frequently the info changes, but I do want the most current info. I’m so jealous of all the people in Australia and the UK with all the research and info they have there. Why is the US so behind on this topic? Anyway, thanks again. Looks like I’ll have to start infusing garlic in my olive oil!
Posted by elise | January 19, 2012, 8:50 pmYes, the Monash booklet. It was published in 2011. I’m not sure how often it comes out. Kate Scarlata (who is really sweet and an amazing resource for Fodmaps) went to Austrailia this summer to study with the scientists. Here’s her post about it, including her food list based on the newest research: http://blog.katescarlata.com/fodmaps/fodmaps-checklist/. We should start a Fodmaps club! I think it’s all so interesting, and I think SO many people could benefit from it. It’s still so much on the fringe in the US.
Posted by Wendy | January 20, 2012, 7:29 ami agree! its so so interesting. thats why i started this site. i just love having others going through the same thing to bounce ideas off of…recipes, experiences, questions…and its helpful to find people with similar GI issues to guide you through the learning curve. thanks so much for your comments. i get so excited to learn more and more.
Posted by elise | January 20, 2012, 11:00 pmZucchini is in the FODMAPs book published by Monash Uni, as mentioned above, as a safe food. Like the commenter above, it has been a lifesaver for me! So has the garlic infused oil and green part of spring onions, as I actually adore garlic and onion but it hates my gut.
Pistachios have been tested and aren’t ‘safe’.
It’s worthwhile pointing out that Australian pumpkin is safe – it’s only American pumpkin that has mannitol.
One of the veggies I had a real problem with was Brussels sprouts. They are supposed to be safe in small amounts (1/2 c), but since I have no self-control I ate several cups of them and was in some serious pain. Oops! I also have to be careful with kale, which breaks my heart because it’s my favourite vegetable….but I don’t think it’s been tested yet.
Posted by saraheclement | January 20, 2012, 5:40 pmwow, i really need to get this new book. thanks for the latest info. that sucks about brussels sprouts – i cant recall having them since starting fodmaps, but i suspect id have your issue with moderation too. 1/2 cup doesnt seem lik eit would be satisfying at all! i would die without kale, too. i need my greens.
ordering the monash publication tomorrow!
Posted by elise | January 20, 2012, 10:58 pmLove to see all the FODMAP followers sharing knowledge! We do need a low FODMAP diet club!
Great recap of the twitter chat!! Keep on bloggin’
Posted by Kate | January 21, 2012, 11:34 amThe clinical review Dietary Fructose and Gastrointestinal Symptoms: A Review has a paragraph entitled Dietary Factors that Facilitate Fructose Absorption stating that glucose, among other things, increases fructose absorption, and cites other studies. It is a short paragraph, but it cites eight other studies and appears that the effect can be quite dramatic. http://www.bashaar.org.il/files/101022005111814.pdf
Posted by Kenneth Carden | January 23, 2012, 8:50 pmthanks so much for the article link kenneth!
Posted by elise | January 24, 2012, 5:54 am